Anthropic投資人朗斯代爾稱AI公司煽動恐懼以影響政策

喬・布洛克報導By Joe Brock

奧斯汀，9月25日（路透社）—— Anthropic投資人、科技公司帕蘭泰爾共同創辦人喬・朗斯代爾（Joe Lonsdale）週五表示，一些領先人工智慧公司試圖警告AI帶來生存風險，等於是在以危險方式企圖形塑公共政策。AUSTIN, Sept 25 (Reuters) - Joe Lonsdale, an investor in Anthropic and the co-founder of technology company Palantir, said on Friday that efforts by some leading artificial intelligence companies to warn of existential risks from AI amounted to a dangerous attempt to shape public policy.

朗斯代爾也是創投公司8VC創辦人。他批評他所稱由Anthropic周邊人士及OpenAI內部人士出資支持外部團體、倡議更嚴格AI監管的做法。他主張，這可能有助於少數領先企業形塑規範產業的規則，並鞏固其市場力量。Lonsdale, also founder of venture capital firm 8VC, criticized what he described as efforts by people close to Anthropic and at OpenAI to fund outside groups advocating stronger AI regulation, which he argued could help a small number of leading companies shape the rules governing the industry and entrench their market power.

朗斯代爾在路透社 Momentum AI Austin 活動上說：「我認為OpenAI和Anthropic目前推動的事情非常危險，我們不希望出現一個寡占集團，透過政府控制我們這裡所有的政策。」"I think that what OpenAI and Anthropic are pushing right now is very dangerous, and we don't want an oligopoly that controls all of our policy here with the government," Lonsdale said at the Reuters Momentum AI Austin event.

「安全確實是真實的問題，但面對恐懼與監管——我們必須非常謹慎地回應這些事。」"Safety is a real thing, but fear and regulation — we've got to be really careful how we respond to those things."

Anthropic執行長達里奧・阿莫迪（Dario Amodei）、OpenAI執行長山姆・阿特曼（Sam Altman），以及執掌SpaceX的伊隆・馬斯克（Elon Musk），本月都呼籲領先AI公司放慢其最先進模型的開發步調，並警告如果防護措施未能跟上，功能日益強大的系統可能對人類構成生存風險。Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Elon Musk, who heads SpaceX, have all this month called for leading AI companies to slow the pace of development of their most advanced models, warning that increasingly powerful systems could pose existential risks to humanity if safeguards fail to keep pace.

44歲的朗斯代爾在批評之餘，也稱讚阿莫迪與Anthropic。他是該公司小股東，並表示Anthropic已集結出色人才，成為AI競賽中的領導者。Lonsdale, 44, tempered his criticism with praise for Amodei and Anthropic, in which he is a small investor, saying the company had assembled exceptional talent and emerged as a leader in the AI race.

朗斯代爾說：「過去幾年，要對全球表現最好的公司提出事後質疑，對任何人來說都非常困難。我很自豪能成為Anthropic的投資人。」"It's very hard for anyone to second-guess the highest-performing company in the world over the last few years," Lonsdale said. "I'm proud to be an investor in Anthropic."

潛在烏克蘭交易POTENTIAL UKRAINIAN DEALS

朗斯代爾曾投資包括Anduril在內的國防科技公司。他表示，這些公司當中有些很可能會收購部分烏克蘭國防公司。Lonsdale, who has backed defense technology firms including Anduril, said some of these companies will likely buy some Ukrainian defense companies.

他表示，在俄羅斯持續逾四年的戰爭期間，烏克蘭無人機與國防科技公司透過不斷調整戰場系統，已取得快速進展。他並補充說，他看見深化合作與潛在收購的機會。Ukrainian drone and defense technology firms had made rapid advances by continuously adapting battlefield systems during Russia's more than four year war, he said, adding that he sees opportunities for deeper partnerships and potential acquisitions.

朗斯代爾說：「我們正與他們非常緊密地合作。我們旗下許多公司都與他們的公司合作。我們旗下許多公司很可能會收購當地的一些公司。」"We're partnering very closely with them. A lot of our companies work with their companies," Lonsdale said. "A lot of our companies are likely to buy some of the companies over there."

自主武器與國防AUTONOMOUS WEAPONS AND DEFENSE

朗斯代爾表示，雖然由AI驅動的自主武器是未來戰爭的趨勢，但問責仍必須由軍方領導人承擔。Lonsdale said that while AI-powered autonomous weapons are the future of warfare, accountability must remain with military leaders.

在烏克蘭，這項議題變得更加急迫，因為無人機與日益自動化的系統已成為戰鬥核心。The issue has taken on greater urgency in Ukraine, where drones and increasingly automated systems are central to combat.

今年稍早的美伊戰爭也凸顯了這項問題。當時，伊朗米納布一所女子學校遭到攻擊，造成超過175名兒童與教師死亡，伊朗官員表示。路透社報導，美軍一項初步調查認定，美軍很可能須對此負責，並指出目標選定過程使用了過時情報。It was also highlighted in the US-Iran war early this year, when a strike on a girls' school in Minab, Iran, killed more than 175 children and teachers, according to Iranian officials. Reuters reported that a preliminary US military investigation found US forces were likely responsible, and pointed to outdated intelligence used in the targeting process.

朗斯代爾說：「總會有一個負責的人，掌管他們研究、作業並核准的任何系統。當你不在戰爭迷霧之中，從外部評斷這些事情非常容易。」"There's always a person responsible who is in charge of whatever system they studied, worked on and approved," Lonsdale said. "It's very easy from the outside to judge these things when you're not there in the fog of war."

五角大廈人事震盪PENTAGON SHAKEUP

近幾個月來，朗斯代爾被提及為可能出任五角大廈高階領導職務的人選。被問到若受邀是否會任職時，他說自己的優先事項是家庭與事業。Lonsdale has been mentioned in recent months as a potential candidate for a senior Pentagon leadership role. Asked whether he would serve if asked, he said his priority was his family and businesses.

「顯然，如果總統打電話給你並請你做某件事，你應該考慮。但我現在的重心是打造我的企業和我的社群。」"Obviously, if a President calls you and asks something of you, you should consider it. But my focus right now is on building my businesses and my community."

五角大廈近期面臨重大領導層動盪，高層出現數名備受矚目的離任。路透社本月報導，白宮已審視可能接替副國防部長史蒂夫・芬伯格（Steve Feinberg）的人選。The Pentagon has faced significant leadership turmoil recently, with several high-profile departures among its senior ranks. Reuters reported this month that the White House had reviewed potential replacements for Deputy Defense Secretary Steve Feinberg.

（喬・布洛克奧斯汀、阿卡什・斯里拉姆班加羅爾報導；強納森・史派瑟編輯）(Reporting by Joe Brock in Austin and Akash Sriram in Bengaluru; Editing by Jonathan Spicer )